Podcast Roundup: Networking, Patience & Frustrations — the September version

WordPress Podcast Roundup

This month’s podcast roundup features two podcasting legends in Kim Doyal and Bob Dunn as well as the wacky, fun gang at the WP Watercooler. The topics these WordPress professionals discuss include frustrations with WordPress, networking amongst WordPress professionals at WordCamps, and having a little patience and grace with yourself for your business.

Check out this month’s podcast roundup from the WordPress Chick, the WP Watercooler, and WP Elevation.

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The WordPress Chick Podcast
Kim Doyal

Veteran podcaster and WordPress professional Kim Doyal is a podcast and content creating-machine of which many people benefit. In this podcast, Kim gets real about putting in the time to accomplish goals.

I feel like Kim invites you into her office and lets you sit on the couch and just begins sharing her heart. She taps into a pain point for most entrepreneurs, not being able to see success sooner than they feel like they should.

This is just a heart to heart talk from our host. Kim tells two stories to illustrate her point.

She encourages us to take action and not depend solely on learning and courses. You have to put them into action.

Episode #136 In-person Networking

WP Elevation
BobWP on Networking

If you aren’t familiar with WP Elevation,

WP Elevation is an online program designed specifically for WordPress consultants. We teach you how to improve your workflow, business practices & client communication, with the support of an active online community.

Bob Dunn is a legendary WordPress professional and in this podcast, he is interviewed by WP Elevation’s Gin McInneny. Dunn talks about networking and references back to the days of pre-internet when everyone went to an event with loads of business cards that they gave out.

Dunn recounted various ways people coach others to network including things like having a pitch, meeting a set number of people, and, sometimes, being more of a robot than an actual person. He explained that when he started attending WordPress meetings and left behind the agenda things really began to pick up for him.

Dunn discussed the how WordPress professionals are usually introverted and geeky making it more difficult for them to meet new people. He explained that members of the WordPress communities who know a lot of people should be the ones to help introduce those who are “wallflowers” to new people and help facilitate that process.

EP146 – What frustrates us about WordPress

Frustrations with WP
WP Watercooler

If there is a podcast I really want to join just to laugh the whole time, it would WP Watercooler. They simply have fun. It is really like you are hanging out at, well, a watercooler.

So this super team of Jason Tucker, Steve Zehngut, Russell Aaron, George Stephanis, Sé Reed, Michael Cremean, and Verious Smith III discuss quite a few things frustrating with WordPress.

The first subject to come up is the difference between WordPress.com and WordPres.org. The group agreed that this is confusing for those who are new to the WordPress space.

Next, they went through a series of frustrations with the default settings in WordPress like, “why does the week start on Monday?” Some in the group thought that maybe some questions such as time zone could be asked during installation.

There was an expression of frustration standardization. Many website hosts offer some sort of push button installation of WordPress and many use their own custom features. In doing so, something like security is left up to the preferences of the person setting up the WordPress installation.

Finally, Sé Reed discussed the wild west of the theme ecosystem. A few agreed that it is even hard to tell what you are getting from themes until after you have paid for it and installed. The example used was how the home page is built. Is it built with a builder, shortcodes, HTML, or widgets?

Reed thinks that overall, it makes WordPress look bad and small businesses just choose one of the other page builder options such as Squarespace rather than choosing a theme.


We know that WordPress isn’t perfect. The beauty of WordPress is that it is open-source and that many ideas can help make the product as well as the overall ecosystem a better place for all. There are certainly reasons to be frustrated with WordPress, sometimes, and we can always strive to do better.

WordPress networking events can be intimidating. I remember my first WordCamp. It wasn’t until I began seeing familiar faces that I started to feel comfortable. Bob Dunn is right in insisting that those of us who have more connections should reach out to others to help bridge that gap.

Finally, Kim Doyal is always loaded with business wisdom. She is right, our success just doesn’t happen overnight. Additionally, she is right in that we can’t be paralyzed by learning more information rather than taking action. Sometimes we truly need to try things to see what works. Of course, trying things means that we give it some time to see if it is going to be successful. I have made that mistake as well. It takes more than a month to know of something will work, and often, it isn’t the technique but the execution.

What are your favorite podcasts? Have you listened to a good episode in the past month? Let us know in the comments below!


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